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| | I work at a 2.0 mgd treatment plant with a 5 stage BNR. The BNR effluent NO3 averages around 8-10 mg/l and I am trying to get down to 5 mg/l. I have tried changing the return and internal recycle rates with little change. The ammonia is completely nitrified in the first oxic zone. Any suggestions to help get the nitrates lower. The BNR is being fed by primary sedimentation basins. |
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| | Rob, Based on what little information is available it is pretty difficult to give you definitive advice. However here is a couple of things that might be worth investigating and may be able to be done easily. 1) Feeding raw sewage to your first anoxic zone thereby increasing the amount of available substrate for denitrification 2) Increasing your recycle rate (you mention you have already done this.) If you are dragging in a lot of high DO ML reducing the recycle rate may also improve things particularly if done in conjunction with other measures. 3) Increasing your SRT by reducing your wasting and increasing your MLSS.This potentially increases the amount of denitrifiers available 4) Reducing the DO slightly in your aerobic zones , so that mixed liquor entering the anoxic zones becomes anoxic earlier in the sequenc hence giving more effective anoxic volume. Most of these changes will take at least a few days to take effect, so i would suggest you change one thing and leave it a week or so to see how the trends look. It might also be worth looking at the level of nitrates leaving each of the aerobic and anoxic zones to get an idea of where nitrification and denitrification is happening and how much. Regards TerryF |
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| | Rob, Terry F raises some good points and I'll try to comment in a way that is complementary to his. First, since you're getting full nitrification early in the process this implies to me you are either conservative in your mixed liquor levels (high) or relatively underloaded (more tanks on line than necessary). You want to improve denitification and can give up some of this conservatism on the nitrification side to get better denitrification. First you'll want to assure that you have the mixed liquor environment working for you- assuming you have two anoxic zones- one up front and one later in the process, check that DO levels are low enough to assure anoxic activity (less than 0.5 mg/l) in the anoxic zones and that DO levels in the pass you're drawing recycle from are not too high (say in 2.0 to 3.0 mg/l level). As Terry points out recycling too much mixed liquor with high DO concentrations to the anoxic zone can reduce it's efficiency and you'll want to optimize recycle rate with that in mind (in theory more is better but not if it retards anoxic activity). Getting DO levels just right is the first step in optimizing BNR and you can't spend too much time getting it right (be aware optimizing on back shifts when loads are less also needs to be factored in). Similarly, DO control can be more difficult in the winter than in the summer due to higher DO solubility and transfer rates and lower nitrification, denitrification and respiration rates. If you have DO environment problems just geting those right may solve your problem for you. Response times to DO adjustments are on the order of hours not days so you should see results quickly. First look at reducing air as needed to get your DO's just right, then balance recycle rates to get as much recyle as possible without carring excess DO into the anoxic zone. This is done by watching anoxic zone DO with different recycle rates balancing to good effect. Also looking to see what nitrate levels are through the anoxic zone (are you taking up all the recycle nitrate you recycle there, and if so more recycle won't help). Once you've addressed DO (and you want to be very disciplined and thorough in doing that) then you can turn to looking at either lowering MLSS by operating at shorter SRT's and/or reducing tankage on line. I've had sucess in stimulating respiration rates in the anoxic zones by lowering SRT and MLSS. This will push the nitrification reaction further into the aeration tank and possibly carry a bit more demand into the second anoxic zone for you. If the system is underloaded and respiration rates are very low going into the second anoxic zone then not much will happen there. Response times to mixed liquor adjustments tend to be slower, especially in cold weather, on the order of days and weeks, so it's best to look to environment first, then sludge wasting and mixed liquor inventories. Food for thought for your initial efforts. Hope it is helpful. Wiff Peterson
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| | Here is some more info about our BNR. Normal mlss-2000-2200 mg/l RAS- .8 mgd NRP- 4 mgd 5 stage BNR- anaerobic, anoxic, oxic, anoxic, oxic. The DO is not carrying over into the anoxic zones. I don't believe the 2nd anoxic is performing well. In response to Wiff P, I don't understand how lowering the SRT will help my cause with denitrification. Please expand further. Hope this gives a little more incite and hopefully some more help from all of you. |
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| | Rob, When you say you don't think the 2nd anoxic is working well , what do you mean and what tests are you doing to show this? Regards TerryF |
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| | I say that because I am not seeing a very substantial decrease in nitrate concentration from beginning to end. Also the denitrification is the first anoxic stage is not what I think it should be. On average we send approx. 3 mg/l nitrate back to the 1st anoxic via the NRP pumps and normally about 10 mg/l enters the 2nd anoxic and leaves around 7 mg/l. I have tried all different setting on the NRP's with not much change. Hope this helps |
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| | Rob, Unless there is something i don't understand about your particular plant , theoretically the nitrate return concentration (which you say is about 3mg/l) should be pretty close to the same as that entering the 2nd anoxic. After all it is the same mixed liquor , or it should be. The second anoxic zone by its very nature and position in the system achieves perhaps no more than 50% nitrate reduction , depending upon HDT, MLSS , SRT temperature and NO3 levels. Therefore i would suggest that you check what is going in to the 2nd anoxic and what is coming out. Likewise what is your influent TKN and COD and what is the TN level you are trying to achieve. Regards TerryF |
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| | Rob, sorry for delay getting back to you. Normally only drop in once a week or so. Reason why lower SRT may help denitrification is that with lower SRT you should experience higher respiration rates. My experience with MLE processes is that adjusting SRT up or down helps balance BNR performance in that higher SRT's drive higher nitrification rates (although respiration rates are lower) and lower SRT's drive higher denitrification rates (and higher respiration rates). Lower SRT's seem to shift the microbiology towards more aggressiveness w/respect to BOD uptake. More agressive BOD uptake in turn seem to drive greater denitrification. However, running lower SRT's reduces nitrifiers as a fraction of the mixed liquor, and thereby makes it a bit harder to achieve full nitrification. In plug or staged flow scenario the minimum ammonia concentration moves towards the end of the tanks when SRT is reduced, but nitrate concentrations in the anoxic zones are reduced. One hopes that nitrates recycled to the anoxic zone are completely consumed. If so, it would seem that increasing nitrate recycle (in the form of internal recycle and/or return sludge) will produce greater denitrification as long as recycled DO with mixed liquor recycle particularly does not overly reduce anoxic conditions. Agree that it is very helpful to run profile of nitrate concentrations in the each anoxic zone, and of ammonia concentrations in each aerobic zone and use this to get a sense of how each is operating and the degree of stress in each. Of course results will vary with mixed liquor temperature so it is good to run these profiles monthly, or when you're in an intense tuning phase weekly. Good to check respiration rates at head of each stage from time to time as this gives good feeling for mixed liquor activity and loadings. Probably the problem with the second anoxic zone is low oxygen demand. If you check respiration rate at the head of the anoxic zone (you can grab a sample and aerate it to check RR) you'll probably find that the high SRT and low loadings on the system are such that there's not much BOD left in this zone to drive denitrification so you'll experience very low RR (not much higher than return sludge respiration rate). Reducing SRT will detune the system with respect to ammonia and BOD a bit and increase the opportunity to drive a bit more BOD further into the process (i.e. a bit more BOD driven to the second anoxic zone) and hopefully increase RR in both anoxic zones to drive more denitrification. However, the nitrification reaction will also push further into the process. When ammonia concentrations start to bump up higher than you're comfortable with in the last aerobic stage then you've reached the limit in how much you can lower SRT to help with denitrification. Keep in mind that if you get to an uncomfortable point on ammonia when this occurs in spring you can anticipate that help will be on the way in the form of higher nitrification rates as temperatures continue to climb during spring months.
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| | I am going to be doing some more testing this week and I will be playing with the internal recycle. I am also thinking about adding another BOD source to the 2nd anoxic to possibly stimulate the microorganisms and get better denitrification. I would like to be in the 2-3 mg/l range when it leaves the BNR. |
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| | Good afternoon Terry, The nitrates are lower because of the dilution of the internal recycle rate. Prior to that, they are more or less equal. Sorry for the confusion. Rob |
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