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Posted 4/27/2007 12:34:05 PM
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Trying to locate information on the quantity and quality of biodiesel wastewater discharges expected from a large scale biodiesel production facility (assuming glycerin and methanol recovery). 
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Posted 4/27/2007 5:33:22 PM
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The composition of the waste depends a lot on the feedstock used.

I'm embarking on a series of jar tests to find out what type of residuals are going to result, when this is varied. I should know more next week.

 

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Posted 5/17/2007 8:16:49 PM
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It's going a bit more slowly than I'd hoped.

But, I ran a series of BOD's on the settled aqueous layer of a test batch I made. The highest dilution - 5 microliters in a 300 ml bottle, -"whited out."

That corresponds to a BOD of at least 480,000 mg/l O2.

I've never seen a value that high.

 

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Posted 5/21/2007 6:24:36 PM
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Although this is not a response to your question, if you would like to discuss waste water management and evaporation processes, please feel free to contact me directly. There is new technology ready to hit the market that is more efficient and economically sound than any other current process. It has great potential to reduce polluted water entering our systems, continuously recover water, and increase the bottom line.
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Posted 6/26/2007 10:22:41 AM
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In BD production we have to deal with residues, spills, dry weather
contaminated drainages, storm weather contaminated drainages and
sludges linked to:

1-vegetal oil (spills/contamination)
2-methanol/ethanol (spills/contamination)
3-biodiesel (spills/contamination)
4-glycerine (spills/contamination - besides the by-product itself)
5-alcaline solution of high pH (NaOH as catalyst)
6-acid solution of low pH (H2SO4 or HCl as neutralizers)
7-salty solution (product of neutralization)
8-organic catalysts (sodium methylate, e.g.)
9-soaps (formed by saponification of vegetal oil by NaOH)
10-coagulants/floculants (aluminium sulphate and other chemicals)
11-filtering adjuvants (diatomaceous earth and similar materials)
12-filtering backwashing (high suspended solid content streams)
13-filtering/decantation/dewatering cakes
14-sludges from anaerobic/aerobic biological treatment of effluents
15-other sludges and wastewaters
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Posted 6/27/2007 3:59:28 PM
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Thanks very much for the information, it's extremely helpful.

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Posted 7/17/2007 11:50:11 AM
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Biodiesel by-product BOD = 678,000 to 723,000 mg/L  (March 2005)

I don't know exactly what the biodiesel process was/is, or at what point they pulled this by-product, but for what it's worth, this is the BOD we have measured on the by-product.

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Posted 7/17/2007 3:11:56 PM
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Waste vegetable oil is combined with methanol and sodium hydroxide. The mixture is stirred, with a bit of heat. At the end of the reaction, the aqueous layer settles to the bottom. It contains water, glycerol, residual methanol (generally, a two fold molar excess is used) and some soap.

 
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Posted 7/25/2007 10:29:00 AM
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does anyone have any experience of the impact of biodiesel production plant wastewater on a municipal treatment works ?

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Posted 7/25/2007 11:49:35 AM
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Biodiesel by-product BOD = 678,000 to 723,000 mg/L  (March 2005)

I don't know exactly what the biodiesel process was/is, or at what point they pulled this by-product, but for what it's worth, this is the BOD we have measured on the by-product.

G

First off, if you are interested in what's involved in bio-diesel production, take a look at:

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums

It's rare that I've seen such a heartening display of shade tree ingenuity than is demonstrated on this board.

Briefly: there are two processes. Alkaline catalyzed transesterification, and acid catalyzed transesterification/direct esterification.

In the first, that I briefly described above, the sodium hydroxide serves two purposes. It catalyzes the glyceride ---> methyl ester transesterification reaction, and it ties up free fatty acids (FFA's) as soap. A two fold molar excess of MeOH is used.  

The second uses, generally, sulfuric acid as a catalyst.  Because of "product inhibition" (water is a by product of direct esterification) a 5 - 10 fold molar excess of MeOH is used. This process is far more tolerant of poor quality feedstocks than the first described.

It was not clear to me, in the post quoted above, whether methanol recovery was carried out. I did not do it on the sample from my (whited out) BOD test. This is customary in both processes. When this operation is performed, the BOD should decline, sharply.

Wastes from the acid process will contain less glycerol, depending on the FFA concentration of the feedstock. However, there will be lots of sulfates, which it's my understanding, you municipal people don't like.

Wastes from the alkaline process will have negligible sulfates, but more soaps; salts of fatty acids. My understanding is that you municipal people don't like those too much, either. How much you get depends on the quality of the feedstock.

I'm doing some experiments to see if the FFA's can be separated from substandard feedstock so that it may be processed via the alkaline catalyzed method; later, recovered FFA's could be transformed via the acid process. Perhaps, HCl could be used instead of H2SO4.

In the works: tests to determine whether glycerol could be used on-site to generate bio-gas. Studies I've seen indicate that acetogenic fermentation must precede methanogenic fermentation. And, that this process works best if there is a lot of more conventional feed, like manure, and the glycerol is spiked in at moderate concentrations.

In short, I'm still learning. This technology is going to experience explosive growth in the next ten years, as petroleum supplies dwindle. The people on top of these waste handling problems will be the winners, and I aim to be one of them.

 

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