﻿<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>Water Environment Federation (WEF) Discussion Forums / Biological Nutrient Removal / WEF Discussion Forums  / Carbon Source for Denitrification / Latest Posts</title><generator>Water Environment Federation (WEF) Discussion Forums</generator><description>Water Environment Federation (WEF) Discussion Forums</description><link>http://www.wef.org/TechnicalDiscussions/</link><webMaster>jfuller@wef.org</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:00:18 GMT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title>RE: Carbon Source for Denitrification</title><link>http://www.wef.org/TechnicalDiscussions/Topic8547-9-1.aspx</link><description>We use sugar to provide synthetic influent to a seasonally under loaded SBR. It is a small plant and we only add 25-30 pounds per week. Each pound of sugar is approximately equal to 500 gallons of 250 mg/l BOD influent. Pros: cheap, readily available 24/7 at Wal-Marts everywhere. Cons: a drag to buy and mix, slime grows in mixing tank and piping, will ferment. (Will also freeze.) Cannot speak to sludge production...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We use Micro-C for denite at four small treatment plants. Is more costly and can get sticky if you are sloppy, but otherwise is a good product. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I've been told that sodium acetate can be used, but know little about it.</description><pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:18:15 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>WaterPlanet</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Carbon Source for Denitrification</title><link>http://www.wef.org/TechnicalDiscussions/Topic8547-9-1.aspx</link><description>See January 2008 issue of WEF WE&amp;amp;T article : &lt;U&gt;Got Carbon? - Widespread biological nutrient removal is increasing the demand for supplemental sources&lt;/U&gt; for comparisons. </description><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:25:15 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>fixedfilmenr</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Carbon Source for Denitrification</title><link>http://www.wef.org/TechnicalDiscussions/Topic8547-9-1.aspx</link><description>Does anyone have experience with the use of sugar water as a carbon source?  Also I am looking for relative sludge production rates from various carbon sources.  I am being told sugar water will produce more sludge than methanol (avoiding due to flammability).  &lt;P&gt;Thanks</description><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:20:52 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>fixedfilmenr</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Carbon Source for Denitrification</title><link>http://www.wef.org/TechnicalDiscussions/Topic8547-9-1.aspx</link><description>The January 2008 WE&amp;amp;T had an article on this very subject: pages 9-53. I reworked the numbers and checked them with my Micro-C distributor.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you need, for example, 100 gallons of Micro-C to get the carbon you need, you will need the following amount of various other products to feed the same amount of carbon...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Methanol: 53, Ethanol: 38, Acetic Acid (100%): 50, Acetic Acid (20%): 288, Sugar: 92, UnicarbDN: 84, Sludge supernate: 105,000.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Having said this, I am against using alcohols (methanol or ethanol). They are flammable, potentially explosive. Not worth the risk in the plants my company operates.</description><pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:33:53 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>WaterPlanet</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Carbon Source for Denitrification</title><link>http://www.wef.org/TechnicalDiscussions/Topic8547-9-1.aspx</link><description>Briefly comments based on our experiences and conditions (Slovak &amp;amp; Czech Republic) :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;methanol - good price ($/kg COD), good physical /storage properties (melting point, possibility for pumping), difficulties with manipulation (safety rules), flammable, technological limitation (need adaptation time for biocenosis ~ 1-2 sludge age)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ethanol - moderate price, good physical /storage properties, no problems with manipulation, flammable, good technological properties (nature like couple &lt;img align="absmiddle" src="http://www.wef.org/TechnicalDiscussions/Skins/WEFTest2/Images/EmotIcons/Smile.gif" border="0" title="Smile"&gt; 2 carbons in molecule)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;acetic acid - high price, moderate physical /storage properties (meting point 16 °C, corrosion), moderate problems with manipulation (corrosion), good technological properties &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;G-phase (glycerine phase, rest from biofuel production) - good price, good/moderate  physical / storage properties (melting point depend on technology), minimal problems with manipulation, good technological properties</description><pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:05:39 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Milos</dc:creator></item><item><title>Carbon Source for Denitrification</title><link>http://www.wef.org/TechnicalDiscussions/Topic8547-9-1.aspx</link><description>Where can I access a comprehensive evaluation (relative strengths, cost, dosage rates, COD value, dis/advantages, etc) of Carbon Sources (methanol, ethanol, MicroC, glycerin, etc.) for denitrification?  If there isn't such a source, I'd appreciate if some members could summarize what they know about each.   &lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt;Thank you.</description><pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:34:21 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>yoyoyuri</dc:creator></item></channel></rss>