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Posted 9/23/2007 10:39:10 PM
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I work in a fairly large (17 analysts, plus management & support staff) wastewater lab.  I am more or less a group leader and have no supervisory authority.  Some coworkers wear IPODs while performing lab work.  I feel that, at a minimum, this impairs communications.  More importantly, I think there is a safety issue with the wearing of these.  As an example, as I was warning a coworker that an autoclave cart was hot, she reached out and touched it.  She was not really burned, but perhaps we were just lucky on that occasion.  Lab management has observed analysts wearing IPODs in the lab setting and (to my knowledge) has not said anything.  I feel that banning these devices from the lab would be appropriate.  What do you think? 

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Posted 9/24/2007 11:37:03 AM


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I would think an iPod would be a safety issue anywhere in the workplace. Its a communication issue, and a distraction to the employee who is using it. I would not allow it.
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Posted 9/24/2007 3:22:57 PM
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We have a radio playing all the time, although with just the lab tech and I, it's not difficult to agree on a radio station.  I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a distraction, depending on what you're doing, it can speed up those repetitive tasks.

It would be a shame to lose the radio/music.  However, it is very clearcut that earphones impede communication. There are many many examples of where earphones/buds are forbidden for safety reasons.

Perhaps as a compromise, you could specify that at least one hearing appendage be unimpeded at all times.  It is possible to listen to just one ear-bud at a time.

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Posted 9/24/2007 5:38:30 PM


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There is nothing more risky and seriously dangerous than wearing headphones while doing ANYTHING other than sitting down.  Your sense of spatial awareness is cut down to almost zero let alone hearing anything important, such as the fire alarm!  Notwithstanding, I do listen to the radio to make my mundane and somewhat repetitive work a bit more tolerable.  Mark and Brian make me laugh each and every morning.

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Posted 9/25/2007 12:19:45 AM
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In my opinion and personal experiences, use of IPODS is nearly as detractive in the lab as using mobile phone during driving. I agree that music flavor mood enhancement but it may be in the working environment and not merely safe to stick head phones into ear. As a medical point of view long time use of headphones may effect the sensitivity of the ear and the absolute threshold of hearing (ATH). ATH is the minimum sound level  of a pure tone that an average ear with normal hearing can hear in a noiseless environment. 

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Posted 10/2/2007 9:42:53 AM
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No way would I allow that. Not only is it unsafe, (you need all five senses active in an environment where hazardous chemicals are in use) but it is, in a human sense, flat out rude.

We seem to have devolved into a society where it's acceptable to walk along, all but oblivious to one's surroundings, communing with cell phones, I-Pods, and whatever electronic whoosie that's possible to hang on ones head, and I for one just detest it. I find it really dehumanizing.

Listening to the radio? That's something you do with your coworkers, it's OK as long as it isn't too loud. I'm easy, I'll even listen to...Musak if it's the consensus. But, plugged into some gizmo, such that one isn't all there? No way.

Save it for the bus ride home.

 

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Posted 10/2/2007 2:14:19 PM
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On a general social level, I would tend to agree with Dedalus, but the issue at hand isn't really rudness, but safety. The reason that I think an IPOD is less safe is because the use of the ear buds not only provides the music (or whatever else the individual is listening to), but also acts as an earphone that prevents them from hearing other things - such as critical warnings.

The same might be true to some extent with a conventional pocket transistor radio, with an earpiece. A radio in an open room is background noise, which obviously has to be low enough for people to talk over. An IPOD acts like a much louder radio, where they may not hear that buzzer, shout, or whatever. I know that I've walked down the street, and could hear what people were listening to, from three or four feet away. I doubt they hear anything else, and it is no wonder they become oblivious. Scary related development: I've noticed is people driving, while listening to these things. It's probably impossible for the to hear sirens from emergency vehicles, which is a  whole other story. 

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Posted 10/3/2007 10:33:53 AM
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John is, of course, correct. Safety is the primary thing. Here's a terrible scenario: you're running some kind of tricky acid digestion, you tell someone to 'look out.' But, they're wearing their "deaf hat" and they can't be bothered, so they vaguely nod at you...without really hearing you. And, something bad happens, and they wind up hurt.

 
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Posted 10/3/2007 7:00:08 PM


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I think IPODS are very bad.  Sincerely Bill Gates.

I think it is much worse to have a chatty coworker blabbing in my ear than listening to my ipod.  Some people have way to much time on their hands when you start worrying about music at work.

Ear buds provide an NR rating of less than 5, thus they do not reduce sound.  I don't understand completely the safety issue.  It has been my experience that people claim it is a safety issue because  it is the easiest argument to make.  I don't think having good hearing is a necessity for good lab practices or safety.  I have worked people who are deaf in the lab.  Never had any problems with burned fingers from autoclave trays or burning acid.

If an employee gets burned because they touch an autoclave, you need to train the employee not to touch things without verifying that they are cool, or you need to keep your hot stuff in a secure area until it cools.  The only safety issue your lab has is inadequate training and procedures.  The ipod probably has little to do with loss time accidents or injuring claims. 

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Posted 10/4/2007 12:07:17 PM


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I think the iPod is definately a safety issue - people using them cannot hear what's going on, and unlike a deaf person, are distracted and absorbed into the music, or whatever they're playing. I hit a bicyclist who was listening to an iPod while riding. He was unable to hear my car horn (or my car). He came off the right shoulder of the road, and literally summersaulted across the hood of my car. Luckily he wasn't hurt, and he admitted he never heard the horn.
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